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December 4, 2013 at 4:05 am
Chandrugonda
You can not disregard Hamas’ role beucase in this unique situation occupier controls boundaries and airspace, but has no control whatsoever of what’s going on inside the Strip. I’m not saying to ignore it. I’m saying that simply beucase Israel took steps which resulted in Hamas taking power does not mean that it is free of its obligations toward the Gazan people. It is not. Besides that, accordingly to international law both occupier and occupied have to comply with the law of occupation, which is clearly NOT what’s going on – Hamas enjoys unprecedented level of independence for an occupied party. And that is Israel’s decision. It must abide by the consequences of that decision. And, again, even if Hamas abides by no rules of law, that does not mean that Israel is free to do what it wants. Situation in and around Gaza Strip is unique by any international legislation standard and should be treat as such. Actually, you are correct, but not in the way you believe. Indeed, the entirety of the occupation of post 1967 war land is a sham, designed as an interim solution to the Palestinian question, so that Israelis can pretend to be a modern, enlightened state and society. Those lands are an integrated part of Israel, and the international community should demand that Israel treat them as such, and give all of the residents of those lands full human rights, including the right to vote and full participation in government, free right to travel and residence anywhere in the state, etc. I seriously doubt that there is a law which states that occupying party is obliged to provide for unimpeded travel. You asked what I believe should be the minimum. I believe that the Israelis are responsible for providing full human rights (including the right to travel) to all, including the Palestinians in Gaza. As of commerce – to allow commerce to flourish would mean assisting Hamas both directly by tax money and indirectly by allowing them to celebrate another victory over Zionist enemy. I really don’t care. Israel has no right to deny human rights to the entirety of the Gazan people beucase it is mad at Hamas. That is collective punishment and it is a crime against humanity. Now that is up to international law experts to analyze the situation regarding current occupation status, actions by both parties, etc. and to define how much food and other supplies are absolutely necessary to avoid any humanitarian crisis. No. It is up to every human being to make that determination for his or her own self. However the International Red Cross are not international law experts, and their opinion regarding alleged violations of international law is hardly of any value. You have shown yourself, with this statement, to be a clown. The International Red Cross are international law experts, and their opinions are highly regarded by pretty much any nation that isn’t a joke, which doesn’t respect the work of the IRC. Besides, there is Israeli solder who is have not been allowed a visit by IRC for 5 years and it does not seem that someone in IRC gives a damn so I don’t see any reason why their opinion worth any noticing. If you don’t think that the IRC has taken no interest in Shalit, then you are an ignorant fool. All one has to do is look at their website, where they regularly post updates regarding this issue, including their efforts to obtain visitations and Shalit’s rights. All this demonstrates is that you are one of those Israelis who don’t judge a thing by the facts, but by the ideology. And beucase international law would prohibit your tribe from dominating over other people, you reject it – you libel it – beucase it is more important for you to uphold the ideology than to address the facts. That is an indictment on you. Only a fool would expect Party A to help Party B which has declared war on Party AAll Gazans have to do to get immediate improvements is to declare peace with Israel. But if Party A is legally obligated to help Party B, then one can rightly hold Party A accountable for its crimes in not upholding the law. Further, the rights to which the Gazan people are afforded under international law are owed, regardless of the political situation between Israel and Palestine. So while you may think that it is okay for Israel to act like a mafia criminal seeking protection money from Gaza, that is a crime against humanity. You want me to give up and only after that, perhaps, a real discussion could begin. The only thing I want you to give up is the defects which your ideology has caused to your rationality and to give up illusions which blind you to true facts. But if I already have lost all my positions, what good is this discussion for? Perhaps if you were to lose all of your unfounded, untruthful, evil and unreasonable positions, you would see what discussion is needed at that point. Maybe it is the journey and not the destination which is important. It is the very international community who actually label Hamas and define human rights. Now, you are stating that disregarding of who Hamas actually are, they are entitled to the same treatment as any other legitimate entity. Debatable statement it is. Again an opinion of international law experts is required. See, here is where your ideology is blinding you. Hamas is not entitled to human rights, just like Israel is not entitled to human rights. These are organizations, not people. It is the people that are entitled to human rights, regardless of whether they are Jews, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Palestinians, Israelis, whatever.That is the point. To treat all “Palestinians” as “Hamas” is a crime against humanity. But the fact that Israeli government is terrorist organization DOES gives Hamas carte blanche to target Israeli civilians, does it not? No. Why would you even think that? What is wrong with you that you would think that this is a true statement or that a person, like me, who has repeatedly stated that the goal is full human rights for every person from the river to the sea, regardless of ethnicity, religion, etc., would agree to such a statement. Really, you need to take your ideological blinders off. You are free to care about anything you please, but as long as people of Gaza support war against Israel there will be casualties on both sides, and I – as any other Israeli, will put my best effort to ensure that most of casualties will be of opposing forces. The problem, though, is that through bigotry and ideology, you Israelis commit the crime of labeling an entire race as your enemies. What the people of Palestine are entitled to, as is their right, is the full freedoms and human rights which all people are entitled. Too bad the Israelis are too stupid to see that. P.S. I can’t grasp this one:At other hand you are at pursuit of international law, while at other hand you support internationally-recognized terrorist organization.Seems like a bit of quadruple standards to me. Your factual premise that I support “internationally-recognized terrorist organization” is false. As I’ve repeatedly stated, I do not support any such organization. And if you believe that every Palestinians can be treated as if he is an active member of such an organization, that is bigotry on your part, and is a crime against humanity when government action is taken in connection with that belief, as with the illegal blockade of the Gazans.